Time:100 Most Important People Disc/Sept-Dec 1997


Query From National Women's History Project nwhp@aol.com 11 Sept 1997

Time Magazine at the site below is accepting suggestions for the 100 most important people of the 20th Century. A list of possibles in several categories is followed by a space for you to submit your suggestions. Of course, the suggestions they list are nearly all male. Females are the predictable: Amelia
Earhart, Marilyn Monroe, etc. Get out your women's history books and submit your personal favorites! Teachers, how about making this a class assignment?

http://www.pathfinder.com/@@tKywEAQAFwybmDe*/time/

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From Jeanette (J.H.) Raichyk mraichyk@iac.net 15 Sept 1997

I think the most important people of this century, after the suffragists at the turn of the century, were the women who launched the Women's Strike for Peace. If they hadn't taken the McCarthy-ites to their knees, we would by now be up to our ears in radioactive fall-out. Can you imagine where that paranoia would have taken us? And the 'best and brightest' of this country were either already cowering or had been seduced by their madness.

Clearly these women should top the list of the most important people. I don't think there was just a small list of organizers either, as I recall...could a group be offered as 'a person'? I feel awful not being able to remember individual names from memory. I would really like to see them be recognized.

From Jordy Bell bellj@mmc.marymt.edu 17 Sept 1997

[In response to above request for info re: Women's Strike for Peace]

Amy Swerdlow's history of the WSP should provide numerous names.

From J.H. Raichyk mraichyk@iac.net 06 Oct 1997

Hi again,
Thanks for the reference. Found Amy Swerdlow's book and registered one vote for the Women's Strike for Peace. But it was a depressing scene.

The original information from the National women's History Project on the situation at Time/CBS for this voting doesn't do justice to the lopsided tally that's accumulating there. It's as if women had no impact unless they're Diana, Madonna, or Curie or Amelia...

Do we write this off as hopeless anyway or do we make an effort to get their attention? Surely Women's Studies should be able to generate a list for each category without breaking a sweat. Couldn't we circulate it with the website address and get some other names out there? Maybe it's not worth the effort, but the categories are:

Warriors and Statesmen
Artists and Entertainers
Scientists and Healers
Builders & Titans
Heroes and Explorers

BTW, the founders of the Women's Strike for Peace were Dagmar Wilson, Eleanor Garst and Margaret Russell.

Or what do you think of having our own 100 most...Of course, maybe this obsession with the 100 most is the problem itself? What do other H-Women think?

Maybe it's not history, but I've been reading the futurists, Pamela McCorduck and Nancy Ramsey's new book, _The Future of Women, Scenarios for the 21st Century_, and judging by the tally, our only hope is Separate and Doing Fine. (among other things, they conclude that 'the expected future of a slow guide to equality' is not going to happen.) I'd be interested to learn what professional women's historians make of our chances. Thanks again.

From Jillian Dickert dickert@binah.cc.brandeis.edu 05 Dec 1997

***{Editor Note: Note the update on vote tally.]***

Forwarded from FEMECON-L-----------------------------

TIME Magazine's "100 Most Important People of the 20th Century" poll is in desperate need of feminist voters. Of Time's 61 suggested nominees, only 8 are women. Go to http://www.pathfinder.com/time/ to make some nominations of your own.----------------------------------------------------------

I've voted, but I have to admit I failed to come up with many women. ...Maybe we can offer our votes here so others can enter them as well. From M_Raymond@compuserve.com Wed Feb 4 10:13:05 1998 Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:29:52 -0500
From: Maria Elena Raymond <M_Raymond@compuserve.com> To: Melanie Shell <melanie@h-net.msu.edu> Subject: _Time_/100 Most Important Disc./Dec 1997

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************Dear Melanie, Here are 5 more responses that came in seconds after I sent you the list to be posted. Please add on. Thanks, ME*******

From Angie Dorman dorman1@turbonet.com 10 Dec 1997

I went w/O'Keefe, Bourke-White, and ER, also. ..added Martha Gelhorn, Gina (sp) Yaeger, Amelia Earhart, Margaret Sanger. FWIW.

From Barbara Winslow Purplewins@compuserve.com 11 Dec 1997 Billie Jean King

From Lara Day Kozak lak9j@virginia.edu 15 Dec 1997 Julie Morgan

From Lyn Reese LynReese@aol.com 15 Dec 1997

Your list is very U.S. oriented. Why not names from other regions? Some suggestions - a short list!:
Umm Kuthum (Egyptian singer, the "Diva of Arab" music-1904-1975) Huda Shaarawi (1879-1947) (Egyptian Women's rights movement, etc) Halide Edib (Turkish author,educator, advisor to Ataturk) Maria Montessori (Italian, 1870-1952)
Alexandra Kollantai (Russia)
Aung San Suu Kyi (human rights activist) Gertrude Mongella (I think Ugandan, Secretary-General, 4th World Conf. on Women)
Dame Nita Barrow
Ding Ling (China, Writer, women's rights activist) Song Qinling (Madam Sun Yat-sen)
Agatha Christie
Gro Harlem (Norway Prime Minister)
Vidgis Finnbogadottir (Iceland..1st woman pres. of the country) Gabriela Mistral (nobel prize for literature, Chile) Sarojini Naidu (India, Independence movement) Hana Ashwari (Palestine)

Also, have you included Mary McLeod Bethune, Shirley Chishom, Charlotte Perkins Gilman, Margaret Sanger, Gloria Steinem?

From Ron Smallwood RSmallwd@nlc.bc.ca 16 Dec 1997 Let's not forget my favourite:

Ada Byron, Countess of Lovelace and inventor of computer programming From M_Raymond@compuserve.com Wed Feb 4 10:13:16 1998 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:05:49 -0500
From: Maria Elena Raymond <M_Raymond@compuserve.com> To: Melanie Shell <melanie@h-net.msu.edu> Subject: _Time_Important People (Reply #?)

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From J.H.Raichyk mraichyk@iac.net 09 Dec 1997

To the editors, et al.

In response to an earlier query for suggestions... Below is a list of the women we've been voting for based on the suggestions:
from women in technology...

Rachel Carson (Silent Spring exposes DDT, etc) Rosalind Franklin (the real discoverer of DNA's structure) Mother Teresa
Elisabeth Dole
Betty Friedan
Grace Hopper
Dagmar Wilson, Margaret Russell, Eleanor Garst, Folly Fodor, Jeanne Bagby ...WSP founders

Edith Piaff
Ella Fitzgerald
Mary Leakey
Rosa Parks
the Suffragists at the beginning of this century Jeanette Rankin, first US congresswoman and peace activist Golda Meir, Margaret Thatcher, Corizon Aquino, Benazir Bhutto are all candidates

Georgia O'Keefe, Margaret Bourke-White

Lise Meitner (physicist who first theoretically explained fission) Cissy Patterson (powerful editor & publisher of a washington DC newspaper in the first half of the century)
Gertrude Bell (did lots of exploring of the arabian/mesopotamian area, as a british political officer she determined the border of today's iraq)
Jeanne Liedloff cultural anthropologist/explorer (S.Am indians) Margaret Mead

Entertainers and Artists: Marian Anderson (1897-1993), the first African-American singer to perform with the Metropolitan Opera
Scientists and Healers: Marie Curie, Jill Ker Conway (historian, first woman president of Smith College)

Eleanor Roosevelt for statesman,
Rosie O'Donnell and Barbara Walters for entertainers, Dr. Fosse for scientist

We would be happy to add your suggestions to our list. Looking forward to working on leveling this playing field or at least finding a fairer one of our own.Thanks.