FILESERVER SEARCHES


I. DISCUSSION LIST ARCHIVES

All discussion list messages are archived and available to subscribers for downloading. The search procedure is relatively straightforward and well worth the time to learn.

At present all messages posted prior to 23 March 1995 are stored at the University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC) [LISTSERV@UICVM.UIC.EDU]. All subsequent posts are stored at Michigan State University (MSU) [LISTSERV@MSU.EDU].


II. SEARCH PROCEDURES

Searching the list archives is a two step process:

Step 1: Identifying the Message(s)

This instructs the listserv to search ALL the text of ALL the messages posted by the discussion list.

Here is the basic format:

Database search DD=rules
//Rules DD *
Search ??????? in [list name]
Index

This message should be sent, with NO SUBJECT LINE to Listserv@uicvm.uic.edu if you think it was sent before March 23, 1995, or Listserv@msu.edu if you think it was sent after. If you are not sure when it was sent [or if you simply do not care] then send your search message to BOTH of those addresses.

Example: Say that you remembered an interesting post from Chris Tomlins on Labor and the Law which you forgot to print out. Now you would like to see it again. Using the above method, you would send this message


Database search DD=rules
//Rules DD *
Search Tomlins in H-Labor
Index


H-Net's central computer will return a message which contains all the posts which included Tomlins name. With the particular system that I use, it goes to my reader and looks like this.
Search Tomlins in H-Labor
Database H-LABOR, 14 hits.

Index Item # Date Time Recs Subject


000019 93/09/02 15:34 422 15 North American Labor History Conference
000138 93/11/11 13:24 234 Reviews in American History on Internet
000194 93/12/01 08:34 20 Re: Query on Chinese Forced Labor
000262 94/01/14 17:15 108 Chris Tomlins on the Law Turn
000271 94/01/17 13:23 346 Hammond's Union Decline Wrapup
000272 94/01/17 13:52 24 Adams asks for primary research on U Decline
000340 94/02/08 20:50 17 Re: The Rights of Labour
000359 94/02/15 00:24 165 Re: The Rights of Labour
000380 94/02/21 13:10 119 Re: Further Contribution to Australian Debate
000386 94/02/22 14:09 89 Corrected Tomlins Posting
000397 94/02/23 23:19 143 More on Waterfront Workers and Australian Debate
000419 94/02/28 16:51 20 Re: Comparative U.S.- African Labor Query
000524 94/04/04 15:33 159 National Labor Relations Board Query - results
000578 94/04/30 01:13 101 Worker Biographies; E.P. Thompson
Looking through the list, I see the words "Law Turn" and remember that that was the posting I wanted. I also noted that its number is 262.

Second Step of Search: In the second phase I now send a message which tells the computer which post to send to me. It has this general format

// Database search DD=Rules
//Rules DD *
Search * in [list name]
Print ???


// Database search DD=Rules
//Rules DD *
Search * in H-Labor
Print 262


This would then return the desired posting.

A Few Extra Points:

You can search for one word, or for a combination of words. EG Search Tomlins Australia in H-Labor would produce those posts with both Tomlins and Australia.

You can call up as many posts as you wish with the Print line. So you could Print 262 194 419 which would get those three messages.

All that foolish looking // stuff is important. But you should not have to enter the entire message every time. On my system, I have two little files, one with the Search set of instructions and one with the Print set of instructions. I just prepare a message to Listserv@uicvm.uic.edu and/or listserv@msu.edu (which I have on my nickname file), call up the Search file, insert the words I am looking for and send it. Then when I get the response, I identify the posts which I want and then follow the same pattern with Print.

I know that this may seem a bit overcomplicated, and it is! In the future we will all have much simpler systems to use. But if you are willing to invest the time and effort now you will have a very powerful tool at your disposal. Finally, although this service is free, the central computer will always send you a message telling you how much time it used on your request.

Seth Wigderson H-Labor Moderator


The H-Net Fileserver is on line and houses:

Logs of the weekly file of messages. In future it may also house book reviews, teaching materials, descriptions of tools, techniques, and computer software and hardware, and other materials of interest to scholars.

Note: The H-Net fileserv is temporarily located at both msu.edu and uicvm.uic.edu To obtain a list of available documents, send a note to Listserv@uicvm.uic.edu or listserv@msu.edu with the following command:

index [list name]

Example:

index H-asia

To obtain a specific document, send Listserv the command

get filename filetype

Example:

get H-asia Welcome

The fileserver also contains the list's log: a complete archive of all list traffic. The logs are stored weekly. You can obtain a log by sending the following command as an e-mail message to Listserv@msu.edu:

get [list name] logyymmw f=mail

Where: yy=year; mm=month; w=week [expressed as letter a, b, c...]
For example:

get h-asia log9411b f=mail

will retieve as one mail file all list messages for the second week of November 1994. The f=mail suffix sends the file to you as a mail file. If you want it sent in netdata format, exclude this suffix.

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