Item number 729, dated 94/07/23 10:10:39 -- ALL
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 10:10:39 -0700 Reply-To: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> Sender: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> From: Elizabeth Brandt <ebrandt@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu> Subject: artisans and embezzlement (fwd)
I'm interested in finding references to any work, past or ongoing, regarding artisans and the criminal law of theft and embezzlement in the late 18th and 19th century U.S. I'd be especially interested in material dealing with shoemakers and the building trades in Massachusetts. Has anyone looked at these issues in the U.S. in the way that Peter Linebaugh has done for England? Thanks.
Larry Goldsmith
Department of History
University of Pennsylvania
lgoldsmi@mail.sas.upenn.edu
Item number 730, dated 94/07/25 13:32:10 -- ALL
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:32:10 -0700 Reply-To: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> Sender: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> From: Elizabeth Brandt <ebrandt@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu> Subject: Re: artisans and embezzlement (fwd)
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:37:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Larry Goldsmith <lgoldsmi@sas.upenn.edu>
To: h-law@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Subject: artisans and embezzlement
I'm interested in finding references to any work, past or
ongoing, regarding artisans and the criminal law of theft and
embezzlement in the late 18th and 19th century U.S. I'd be
especially interested in material dealing with shoemakers and the
building trades in Massachusetts. Has anyone looked at these
issues in the U.S. in the way that Peter Linebaugh has done for
England? Thanks.
You might contact Mary Blewett (I believe she is at the University of
Massachusetts/Lowell). She has written about labor movements in the
Massachusetts shoe industry. Although what I have read by her does not deal
with embezzlement, she may have run across material on it. (see her book
*We Will Rise in Our Might*)
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Doug Telling
dtelling@k12.ucs.umass.edu
; Item number 733, dated 94/07/29 15:58:56 -- ALL
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 15:58:56 -0700 Reply-To: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> Sender: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> From: Elizabeth Brandt <ebrandt@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu> Subject: Artisans and Embezzlement (fwd)
Here are two responses to the query on artisans and embezzlement
which I cross-posted from H-Law. Thanx to Doug Deal and Peter Campbell.
I am adding additional cite material for the legal list.
Seth Wigderson H-Labor moderator
In response to Larry Goldsmith's query: I don't think there is any US work quite like Peter Linebaugh's. While working on THE LONDON HANGED, he often asked me if I had come across similar materials in my research on 17th and 18th-century servants in North America (Chesapeake, mainly), and I had to admit I'd found almost none. To my mind, the US labor historian who comes closest to doing work like Peter's is Marcus Rediker (no surprise, since they have also been close collaborators on various projects). [Marcus Rediker. Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea: merchant seamen, pirates, and the Anglo-American maritime world, 1700-1750. NY: Cambridge University Press, 1987.]
For what it's worth, I did find one brief reference to embezzlement and early 19th-century workers in Christopher Tomlins' new book, LAW, LABOR, AND IDEOLOGY IN THE EARLY AMERICAN REPUBLIC (1993), on page 271.
Good luck!
Doug Deal
History, SUNY-Oswego
<deal@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
Seth: As regards Larry Goldsmith's question about artisans and the criminal
law. It seems to me that there is actually quite a bit of stuff on this
question in Commons. [John Commons. A Documentary History of
American Industrial Society, 18 volumes. History of Labour in
the United States, 4 volumes.]
There is also Marjorie B. Turner, The early American labor conspiracy
cases, their place in labor law: a reinterpretation.
(San Diego: San Diego State College Press, 1967).
peter campbell <CAMPBELP@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Item number 734, dated 94/07/29 16:08:28 -- ALL
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 16:08:28 -0700 Reply-To: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> Sender: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> From: Elizabeth Brandt <ebrandt@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu> Subject: Re: artisans and embezzlement (fwd)
Re Larry Goldsmith's inquiry on embezzlement:
I touch on changes in the law of embezzlement with particular reference to artisans in early nineteenth century Massachusetts in *Law, Labor and Ideology in the Early American Republic* (see pp.271-2 and nn.). There are some interesting reported cases on the matter of artisanal and common carrier bailment of property in Massachusetts (see e.g. cases cited at p.279 n.59) and my sense is that there is a lot of opportunity in this topic. I think the best way to approach it, however, is "backwards" from indictment/prison records rather than "forwards" from case law.
Chris Tomlins
American Bar Foundation
Item number 739, dated 94/08/02 08:01:10 -- ALL
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 08:01:10 -0700 Reply-To: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> Sender: Legal History discussion list <H-LAW@UICVM.BITNET> From: Elizabeth Brandt <ebrandt@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu> Subject: Artisans and Embezzlement (fwd)
It seems to me that I recall a discussion relevant to this topic in Carig Becker, Property in the Workplace: Labor, Capital, and Crime in the Eighteenth-Century British Woolen and Worsted Industry, 69 Virginia Law Review 1487 (1983).