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Subject: CFV: soc.culture.scottish (fwd)
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There is now a Call For Votes on the establishment of a soc.culture.scottish
newsgroup. The group is mentioned as "providing a forum for the use and
support of Gaelic". Details of how to vote are appended.
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Subject: CFV: soc.culture.scottish
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FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group soc.culture.scottish
Newsgroups line:
soc.culture.scottish Anything regarding Scotland or things Scots.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 15 May 1995.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting
questions only contact Warren Lavallee <warren@Syra.NET>. For
questions about the proposed group contact Brian Atkins
<atkins@cnd.hp.com>.
DISTRIBUTION
This articles has been cross posted to:
Unmoderated groups:
soc.culture.europe, soc.culture.celtic, soc.culture.british
rec.music.celtic, rec.sport.soccer, soc.culture.welsh
Groups RFD not posted to:
scot.general, alt.scottish.clans
CHARTER
The soc.culture.scottish newsgroup will be open to discussion of all
subjects specifically referring to Scotland or Scottish culture. This
newsgroup will be created for reasons including, but not restricted to,
the following:
* To encourage understanding and discussion of Scotland and Scottish
culture, in the many ways people wish to define it.
* To act as a focus for the Scottish diaspora (Scottish people, including
emigrants and their descendants) and to draw together the global
threads of the Scottish nation.
* To act as a resource for Scottish people who wish to use the Internet
and for people who wish to encourage the development of the Internet
in Scotland.
* To provide a forum for the use and support of the Scots and Scots
Gaelic languages and the Norse influenced dialects of Orkney and
Shetland.
The following exceptions should be noted:
* Matters referring to broader British issues should be posted to
soc.culture.british
* Matters referring to the broader Celtic issues should be posted
to soc.culture.celtic.
* Matters referring to Scottish Celtic folk music may have a more
appropriate forum in rec.music.celtic.
RATIONALE
Millions of people world-wide are of Scottish descent, and there is
sufficient demand for a forum to discuss specifically Scottish topics.
Many new Usenet users are at a loss when they fail to find a group with
Scottish or Scotland in the title. This group's name will act as a
signpost for these people.
Previously, many people have used either soc.culture.british or
soc.culture.celtic, but this situation is increasingly difficult.
As the Scots are a small minority amongst the British peoples, many
who would post and/or read articles on uniquely Scottish topics in
the soc.culture.british newsgroup are inhibited from doing so by the
overwhelming number of non-Scottish posts to that group. The group
soc.culture.celtic also tends to be dominated by posts about Ireland
which are not related to Celtic matters and are not of interest to the
group's traditional readers. The soc.culture.celtic newsgroup is also
not particularly suitable for discussing Scottish issues as a great many
Scots do not view themselves as Celts.
The Scottish culture is unique. The Scots are a British people who have
been influenced by a number of different cultures. The main cultural
influence has been an Anglo-Saxon one similar but distinct from that of
England. The Gaelic culture of the Highlands is indeed a part of the
wider Celtic culture. The culture of Orkney and Shetland has been deeply
influenced by Scandanavia. This unique fusion of diverse cultures means
that there is currently no newsgroup that can serve as a forum for all
Scottish people to discuss uniquely Scottish issues.
The motivation for the creation of a soc.culture.scottish newsgroup is
not separatist. The new newsgroup will serve the distinct needs of the
Scottish people in the same way as say the existing soc.culture.quebec
and soc.culture.berber newsgroups serve the distinct needs of the Quebec
and Berber peoples.
HOW TO VOTE
Send MAIL to: voting@Syra.NET
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.
Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
I vote YES on soc.culture.scottish
I vote NO on soc.culture.scottish
I vote ABSTAIN on soc.culture.scottish
I CANCEL my vote on soc.culture.scottish
Neither ABSTAIN nor CANCEL messages are counted as votes; they serve
only to cancel any previous vote. Abstentions are noted in the final
vote list, whereas CANCEL removes your vote from that list entirely.
(This is the only difference between the two.)
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.
If you later change your mind you may vote again; only your last valid
vote will count.
Standard Guidelines for voting apply: no more than one vote per person,
no more than one vote per account. If you attempt multiple votes or
other vote fraud, all your votes may be canceled and your name published.
The complete vote list will be posted with the vote result, including
how each person voted. Note that Usenet votes are not done by secret
ballot.
There will then be a five-day period during which the published vote
list may be corrected and any irregularities addressed. The
requirements for group creation are 100 more YES votes than NO votes,
and 2/3 of all counted votes being YES.
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Jim McNeil,
Research School, Department of Archaeology and Prehistory,
University of Sheffield, Sheffield, S10 2TN.
Tel: (0742) 826703 (direct dialling).
E-mail: j.mcneil@sheffield.ac.uk
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